15:02:44	 From Brandon Henderson : Thank you Jen!
15:04:55	 From James Wooten : I want to introduce Dr. Karl Kador to the Faculty Senate.  Dr. Kador is the new Faculty Senate representative from the School of Medicine
15:10:44	 From Erin Blocher : sounded important, though... could jacob join by phone : )
15:11:59	 From Jacob Marszalek : I just said that events in 2015 at MU were exasperated by contradictory actions/words by Prez and Chacnellor.
15:12:08	 From Jacob Marszalek : That's being used as part of the justification.
15:12:22	 From Erin Blocher : Thanks Jacob!
15:16:10	 From Jacob Marszalek : I have a new microphone!
15:22:04	 From Jen Salvo : Yes to what Viviana is saying! The first rule of creating/revising a job description is NOT to create a job designed to be filled by a specific person, but to find a person to fill a certain role. What they're doing is justifying the merger of these jobs by saying Choi can do it. It is designed for Choi but for no one else.
15:25:13	 From Erin Blocher : From a really practical standpoint, it also seems like both are full time jobs.  
15:35:23	 From Jacob Marszalek : I know Hitler comparisons are fraught, but he really became a tyrant after he was elected president while still being chancellor of Germany.
15:39:25	 From Karyn Turla : Agree! Great point!
15:39:34	 From Mark Patterson : I concur :) great suggestion
15:41:17	 From Timothy Lynch : My suggestion: Add to the beginning of question 1 on page 1: "Given the conflict of interest inherent in having one person as both the President of the UM System and the chancellor of one of the UM campuses,"
15:42:32	 From Stephen Dilks : Yes, so add “Given the potential for conflict of interest…
15:43:25	 From David VanHorn : IRONY:  once the two positions become one, there will not be a conflict of interest... :( 
15:44:25	 From Sookhee (Sukie) Oh : Thank you for the draft. I also support the editorial suggestions. 
15:46:45	 From Mark Patterson : Also Anthony's suggestion of moving up those sentences to a more prominent location in the letter 
15:46:58	 From zhud : This is Da-Ming Zhu
15:47:46	 From zhud : Are we supporting or against the merge of the two very important positions?
15:48:20	 From zhud : I will be one. 
15:48:31	 From zhud : I do not have microphone.
15:48:31	 From Jacob Marszalek : We are against
15:52:19	 From Jen Salvo : The KC Star wrote an editorial opposing this: https://www.kansascity.com/opinion/editorials/article243612922.html#storylink=cpy
15:53:14	 From Erin Blocher : Thanks Jen!
15:53:25	 From Jen Salvo : It was a while ago, so maybe they'll be prompted to do a reprive?
15:55:37	 From Scott Curtis : I have to leave for another appointment (Zoom). Thank you very much for everything, Executive Committee and fellow Senators!
16:05:05	 From Da-Ming Zhu  To  Tom Mardikes(privately) : Sorry, I have to leave. 
16:10:35	 From Mark Patterson : Is it a fair assumption to say if outbreak worsens, modalities change back to "online"?
16:11:08	 From Mark Patterson : fully online, i mean. 
16:11:20	 From Jacob Marszalek : Mark, as I recall, that's why we voted against any adjustment to the fall calendar.
16:11:20	 From Tom Mardikes : probably, yes
16:11:35	 From Mark Patterson : ok, so flexibility exists in that scenario. good to know. 
16:11:40	 From Jacob Marszalek : I hope that is still the case
16:14:18	 From Tom Mardikes  To  Jacob Marszalek(privately) : your mic sounds great.  I think it is your wifi.  you lock up/freeze a lot.  I ended up dumping wifi and hooking my laptop directly via ethernet.  Problems gone
16:18:42	 From David VanHorn : So, are faculty generally wanting to have more in-person classes; or are faculty more concerned about personal safety and want to go more toward online?  I don't have any sense in my dept. or school, or in general.
16:19:36	 From Stephen Dilks : The survey that came out last week was designed to figure that out?
16:19:56	 From Tom Mardikes : seems to me faculty want to have the choice.  I guess that since we have to plan for face-to-face AND online, and be quasi-hybrid if necessary, faculty would like to make the decision
16:20:59	 From Jen Salvo : Out of sight, out of mind
16:21:04	 From Charles Robinson  To  Tom Mardikes(privately) : Yes, Tom, the faculty should be empowered to make the best decision about the safety of ourselves and our students, and the integrity of the course delivery for our students.
16:21:16	 From Sookhee (Sukie) Oh : I heard that Barb Bichelmeyer tried to do the same thing at KU a couple weeks ago and all the faculty at KU signed a vote of no confidence petition against her until she relented. 
16:21:46	 From Sookhee (Sukie) Oh : https://www.kcur.org/news/2020-06-25/ku-faculty-leaders-say-in-person-class-mandate-is-unwieldy-discriminatory-and-perhaps-illegal
16:21:56	 From Anthony Shiu : Agreed, Tom. The Provost’s position comes across as a dictate, without much reasoning given for it.
16:22:39	 From Jacob Marszalek  To  Tom Mardikes(privately) : Thanks for the feedback. Have to choose between privacy and hard connection at the moment.
16:23:05	 From Tom Mardikes  To  Jacob Marszalek(privately) : well, the mic is great!
16:23:45	 From Jacob Marszalek : I think faculty freedom is the key issue.
16:24:07	 From Jacob Marszalek : Some of us feel perfectly fine teaching in person, but others have to consider risks for others.
16:24:33	 From Jacob Marszalek : One size fits all is a bass ackwards way to approach this crisis.
16:27:35	 From Anthony Shiu : Faculty freedom + workplace safety. There are lax protocols for workplace/bathroom sanitizing in the Roos Return plan, and the painter’s tape we see on classroom seats in the latest PR photos looks like a mere suggestion.
16:28:13	 From Jen Salvo : I have a part 2 to my question :)
16:28:45	 From Jamie Hunt : Do we even have enough large classrooms to accommodate social distancing
16:31:02	 From Tom Mardikes : good point, Amanda
16:31:24	 From Stephen Dilks : These are questions that need to be asked directly to the Provost
16:31:35	 From Erik Olsen : The situation looked better in the Spring than it does now.
16:33:24	 From David VanHorn : what if your lab is only 500 sf?
16:34:02	 From Tom Mardikes : so 144 sq/ft but up to 1000 sq/ft?  This is confusing
16:36:52	 From Stephen Dilks : Yes.  Things have changed significantly in the last two weeks. States are changing their protocols. We need to do the same
16:37:12	 From Jamie Hunt : trust me, most of us wanted to be in the classroom but made the decision we thought was best for the program
16:37:34	 From Stephen Dilks : Fauci suggests we have not seen the worst of this pandemic
16:38:24	 From Mark Patterson : I think we should consider speaking to Provost about these issues. 
16:38:31	 From Mark Patterson : before school starts. 
16:39:09	 From Anthony Shiu : Also keep in mind that Provost Lundgren expressed, in May, that she wished UMKC declared an online-only Fall Semester. The buck doesn’t stop with the Provost.
16:40:00	 From Jamila Jefferson-Jones : Maybe it’s the Chancellor that we need to talk to.
16:41:57	 From johannanilsson : Do we know how the other system schools are dealing with this?
16:44:57	 From Tom Mardikes : we could ask IFC colleagues about what they are doing.  I’m sure it is different in each . . . .
16:45:45	 From johannanilsson : Jen -yes we need to bring this up with the provost.
16:54:33	 From Jen Salvo : We also have to be aware of how this would apply equitably to staff and to students who are parents as well!
16:54:59	 From Mark Patterson : also need to make sure we get feedback from our constituents if we move forward suggesting a policy
16:55:40	 From Tom Mardikes : but it would be good to know from Provost Office what they would be willing to accommodate, yes?
16:55:43	 From David VanHorn : Related to Jen's point, it seems that flexibility and adjusting to the pandemic should be disconnected from fiscal exigencies that would then be permanent...  I"ve heard of some other adjunct situations where the admins are taking advantage of, or trying to, the non-regular faculty and staff.
16:58:32	 From Sybil Wyatt : I have to hop off for another meeting; please feel free to email me with any questions (wyattsb@umkc.edu).
16:58:53	 From Stephen Dilks : THANKS Sybil!!!
16:59:04	 From Erin Blocher : Thank you for talking with us, Sybil!
16:59:04	 From Tom Mardikes : thank you for coming Sybil.  Best
16:59:17	 From Sybil Wyatt : Of course; take care!
17:03:00	 From Mark Patterson : Agree. agree. agree. Yes!!! 
17:03:04	 From Jamila Jefferson-Jones : I agree with Charles!!!
17:03:16	 From johannanilsson : Well stated
17:04:24	 From Mark Patterson : LOL. with mask exemptions or not? LOL 
17:04:29	 From David VanHorn : I'll volunteer for that tom and Steve.
17:05:33	 From Jamila Jefferson-Jones : I’m happy to be a part of that meeting. What else is my shiny new Professor rank for?
17:07:14	 From Timothy Lynch : I would too
17:07:25	 From Lance Godley : I would be glad to do it 
17:08:16	 From Erin Blocher : Charles had an important take
17:09:00	 From Charles Robinson : Thank you,, Tom
17:09:07	 From Jen Salvo : This is my last Senate meeting, folks! Thank you for being a great group for 4 years!